Sea Breeze
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Lessons in Deception
by Sea Breeze ini recently came across a piece of historical trivia: italian singer adriano celentano released a song in the 70's with complete nonsense lyrics meant to mimic american english, to prove italians would love any english song.
it was a huge international hit!.
it made me think how the wt simillarly used a lot of stage props and nonsensical religious sounding words to fool millions into destroying their families and futures.
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Sea Breeze
I recently came across a piece of historical trivia: Italian singer Adriano Celentano released a song in the 70's with complete nonsense lyrics meant to mimic American English, to prove Italians would love any English song. It was a huge international hit!It made me think how the WT simillarly used a lot of stage props and nonsensical religious sounding words to fool millions into destroying their families and futures.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QytckwhRR70&ab_channel=Audiowok -
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New meeting format
by ExBethelitenowPIMA injust watched november broadcast very different order to the leaked agm .
be good if someone did a deep dive on the difference and why the changes?
i didn’t time the items but it should be easy to see if edited?.
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PIMO friends tell me that their Cong just asked all Pubs to complete a written form that commits them to a monthly contribution. Said that this commitment is needed so the WTS will know how much they can depend on when considering foreign building projects
In 2014, Watchtower promised to never solicit money, and that begging is offensive.
“Jehovah’s people do not beg for money. ... They hold to what the Watch Tower long ago said: “We have never considered it proper to solicit money for the Lord’s cause, after the common custom . . . It is our judgment that money raised by the various begging devices in the name of our Lord is offensive, unacceptable to him, and does not bring his blessing either upon the givers or the work accomplished.””
God’s Kingdom Rules (2014) pp.195-196JW's are very gullible people as a whole.
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Who is the who of WHO we ARE? And when we die......where does the "who" go?
by Terry inif and when you deposit the check from me in your own bank--what happens to my actual personal wealth?.
2.what happens to my ability to use my entire personal wealth?
so, how do we answer the question of what happens to you when you die?.
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Sea Breeze
The very fact I must refer to them and you must think of them as quantities identify the rational distinction our minds demand!
Terry,
I do appreciate your ponderings. Have you ever pondered why the human mind "demands" rationality? Why should we be rational and where did rationality come from?
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Reinstatement Procedure
by KerryKing inwhat else has changed?.
during the many years i have been df'd the org has printed a new bible, new song book, doctrinal changes, so has anything changed re reinstating someone?.
i'm contemplating the leap for family reasons but due to my job and young family commitments there is no way i would be able to attend every meeting for months on end.
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Sanchy: your best bet is to humiliate yourself publicly so that the elders notice
DOC: I think the best approach would be that you see all the things going on in the World and it PROVES that The End is very, very near.
Jesus: "Many people were traveling with Jesus. He said to them, 26 “If you come to me but will not leave your family, you cannot be my follower. You must love me more than your father, mother, wife, children, brothers, and sisters—even more than your own life! 27 Whoever will not carry the cross that is given to them when they follow me cannot be my follower".
Celebrate Revovery has over 30,000 chapters helping people with their hurts, habits and hang-ups. It's free and is helpful in sharing honesty, grief, loss and recovery with others who seek to be healed by Jesus. Jesus is still in the healing business. I have attended off and on for years..... very helpful.
I was never disfellowshipped, faded at first but eventually took a stand for conscious reasons, false prophecies, lack of love in congregations, Jesus not the Mediator for the R&F, etc.
My family has been in it for nearly 100 years. I had several dozen relatives I had to say goodbye to. I started my own family at age 40, have three sons, and was able to get my nephew out.
I find a great deal of satisfaction in knowing that all of the male heirs capable of reproducing and furthering the family name will never be JW's .... because of me. In other words, no descendant with my father's last name will ever worship this idol again. I stopped a legacy of tragedy... at least in one family.
If you will follow Jesus and let the chips fall where they may, Jesus boldly claims to repay a person one hundred times over...."in this age".Jesus said, “Truly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or lands, for my sake and for the gospel, who will not receive a hundredfold now in this time...and in the age to come eternal life. - Mark 10: 29
What to do with Jesus and his incredible claims? He's either the most evil person who ever lived because of his lying claims, or he is who he said he is.
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Who is the who of WHO we ARE? And when we die......where does the "who" go?
by Terry inif and when you deposit the check from me in your own bank--what happens to my actual personal wealth?.
2.what happens to my ability to use my entire personal wealth?
so, how do we answer the question of what happens to you when you die?.
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Sea Breeze
Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him - Job 13: 15
Terry, in your short story, do you think the people went anywhere after they died?
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Who is the who of WHO we ARE? And when we die......where does the "who" go?
by Terry inif and when you deposit the check from me in your own bank--what happens to my actual personal wealth?.
2.what happens to my ability to use my entire personal wealth?
so, how do we answer the question of what happens to you when you die?.
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Sea Breeze
Gen 49:33 And when Jacob had made an end of commanding his sons, he gathered up his feet into the bed, and yielded up the ghost, and was gathered unto his people.
When Jacob's body expired, who was it that was went to his people?
Answer: Jacob
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Trinity Statements in the Dead Sea Scrolls
by Sea Breeze indr. ken johnson has identified several statements in the dead sea scrolls that predict that god would visit the earth as a man... as the messiah.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljrfvytjhve&ab_channel=kenjohnson%28biblefacts%29 .
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PistolPete : "complete ignorance".
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Israel vs Hamas
by Riley inwe might have russians involved in the middle east and are attacking israel.. wait.. i thought the watchtower and tract society was the central figures in the end times.
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not that i believe in any of this nonsense but any news in jw world about how the evangelical narrative might be playing out closer than the wts stupidity.
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Sea Breeze
"they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not know the time of your visitation.” - Jesus
Clearly, Jesus expected the people alive in his generation to know the general time frame of the Messiah's appearance.... JUST AS HE DOES NOW. (1 Thess. 5: 4-5)Here are some signs telling us we have already entered the season of the Lord’s 2nd Coming:
Many endtime prophecies (like temple sacrifices) pre-suppose a literal nation of Israel. After nearly 2000 years of non-existence, it suddenly reappeared "in a day" in 1948. (Isaiah 66:8)
Jerusalem was reclaimed in 1967 by the people of Israel (Isaiah 11:11-16, Joel 3:1-3)
Exponential increases in knowledge (internet) (Daniel 12:4)
Increase in people traveling from place to place (Jet travel) (Daniel 12:4)
The development of microchip and other technologies that for the for first time in history can make buying and selling impossible for some. (Revelation 13:16-18)
Persecution of Christians increasing all around the world (Matthew 24:9-10)
Increased lawlessness in the form of mass murderers, people yielding to immorality, homosexuality, and perversions of every kind "as in the days of Noah" (Matthew 24:12).
After being asked what would be the sign of his coming, the 1st thing Jesus said was to take heed that no one deceives you. The world is buried in deception, and with the invention of AI, it is about to get dramatically worse. People will be (many already are) deceived and have no idea what truth or reality is. 4% of Gen Z say they are transgender.
But you are not in darkness, brothers, for that day to surprise you like a thief. For you are all children of light, children of the day. We are not of the night or of the darkness.... For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ - 1 Thess. 5: 4-5,9
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Israel vs Hamas
by Riley inwe might have russians involved in the middle east and are attacking israel.. wait.. i thought the watchtower and tract society was the central figures in the end times.
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not that i believe in any of this nonsense but any news in jw world about how the evangelical narrative might be playing out closer than the wts stupidity.
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Sea Breeze
Like the Roman Cathoilic Church, the WT has appropriated the term Israel and applied it to themselves. This should come as no surprise because they did the same thing with the promises of Salvation "for the forgiveness of sins" at the Lords Supper (Mt. 26: 27-28). Even though this is promised to "whosoever" over and over in scripture, WT says it only applies to them and not the R & F.
As far as the outcome of Hamas and Israel: I believe Israel's problems are just starting.
Zech. 12: 3 (AMP) And in that day I will make Jerusalem a heavy stone for all the peoples; all who lift it will be severely injured. And all the nations of the earth will come and be gathered against it.
Israel is the ultimate "Fool Around and Find Out" scenario.
A nation should first determine how much they need to find out. That will then tell them how much they should fool around with Israel in order to find out what they need to know. It is all very scientific.
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Looks like Watchtower policy on blood transfusions are finishing off what the terrorist couldn't complete.
Poor gullible JW's:
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/India/no-birthdays-no-blood-transfusions-jehovah-s-witnesses-have-a-committed-way-of-life/ar-AA1jj3oQ